From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Tue Nov 3 20:43:25 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 20:43:25 +0100 Subject: How I missed Rosa, more or less Message-ID: <9211031943.AA26896@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> I thought I would report on what Rosa said last weekend when he attended a con here in Sweden, but unfortunately I didn't see much of him. He was busy doing drawings for people most of the time, but at Sunday four o'clock he was to talk about his series of stories on Uncle Scrooge's youth. There were not only comics there, but lots of games and stuff too, and at noon I entered the Swedish championship in the game Rummicube. Not that I've played it a lot, but I thought it was cool to be in a Swedish championship. (There were only twelve contestants, and I knew four of the other btw!) Anyway I still hadn't lost when Rosa gave his speech, so I simply missed it. The other Disney-related guest there was a Finn whose name now escapes me and who's done some covers for Disney, but I missed him too because of that Rummicube tournament (as well as Bill Sienkiewicz). Maybe someone else who was there (Anders, Greger, Hakan, Joakim, Johan, am I missing anyone?) could tell us if he said anything interesting. As far as I've gathered, the first two parts of US's youth *are* published in Denmark and/or Norway, but *not* in Sweden as the editors didn't like it. The third part will be published in all the weekly Scandinavian Disney books later this year (#47?). -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.DoCS.UU.SE "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Mon Nov 9 15:36:37 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 09 Nov 1992 15:36:37 +0100 Subject: Don Rosa (again) Message-ID: <199211091436.AA02647@athena.research.ptt.nl> A while ago, I asked Dutch editor Thom Roep why the Rosa story "On a silver platter" wasn't printed in Holland yet. He answered (translated): | We sent the story to Bob Foster from the Danish publisher Egmont. He | publishes it in the Danish "Anders And" and we get the color prints | afterwards. (I know that Bob Foster went to Denmark, but what is Egmont?) ----- A message for whoever wants to keep the Dutch Rosa-list up-to-date: the story 'Cash flow' is published in 'WB.92' (Groot Winterboek 1992). --Harry From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Tue Nov 10 21:28:26 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:28:26 +0100 Subject: Don Rosa (again) In-Reply-To: Harry Fluks's message of 09 Nov 1992 15:36:37 +0100 <199211091436.AA02647@athena.research.ptt.nl> Message-ID: <9211102028.AA24174@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Harry Fluks asked: > (I know that Bob Foster went to Denmark, but what is Egmont?) That is the just the new name of Gutenberghus. I don't know why they changed the name. > A message for whoever wants to keep the Dutch Rosa-list up-to-date: I've added that to my copy, as well as a couple of Scandivian items: o The Son of the Sun was in the Scandinavian weeklies 28/1992. o The Master Landscapist was reprinted in "Bild & Bubblas andra seriebok" (with the two last pages exchanged!) What I would like is some info on new Rosa stories, like the "Uncle Scrooge's youth" stories, of which I think parts one and two already are published in Norway and/or Denmark. The only Rosa stories in the index that aren't published in the USA yet are: Code USA Repr NL Scan Pg Title [+ remarks] ============================================================================= D 90161 X91-11 K91-22 12 DD (satellite catcher) D 91071 X92-04 K91-42(S) 14 US (isle on the edge of time) D 91076 X92-10 K92-06 11 DD Super Snooper Strikes Again D 91192 X92-09 K91-45/47 27 US (war of the wendigo) -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.DoCS.UU.SE "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Fri Nov 13 16:55:38 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:55:38 +0100 Subject: New releases Message-ID: <9211131555.AA06600@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> >From a posting to rec.arts.comics.info: > New releases for the week of November 11: > [...] > Disney > Colossal Comics Collection 8 > Dinosaurs 1 > Donald Duck Adventures 33 Contents, anyone? -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From e91ju at efd.lth.se Sat Nov 14 18:56:00 1992 From: e91ju at efd.lth.se (Johan Urbanyik) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 18:56 MET Subject: THE CARL BARKS AUTOGRAPH EDITION Message-ID: THE CARL BARKS AUTOGRAPH EDITION A new "very limited release" Carl Barks Autograph Edition with "AN AUTOGRAPH IN INK SO LARGE YOU CAN SEE IT ACROSS THE ROOM." is about to be released. This edition will contain the following: 1, A Carl Barks autograph in "indelible permanent black ink" on acid free, pH buffered 100% rag, Rives BFK autograph paper from France (!) 2, An exclusive photograph of Carl Barks. The negative has been destroyed 3, A pristine mint copy of early Whitman classic Barks comics "Only a poor old man" under acid free Mylar. 4, A complete set of five 14" x 18" acid free, pH buffered mats This edition is extremely limited. 245 copies for US and 30 for Germany and Finland (?!?!) All this for only (?) about 200 $ For more information contact Grandey & Morby Productions Box 82031 Kennmore, WA 98028 USA Phone/Fax (206) 488-7377 -- Johan Urbanyik Hallestadsv 160 240 10 Dalby Sweden email: e91ju at efd.lth.se "I'd like everyone to notice that my report is in a professional, clear plastic binder. When a report looks this good, you know it'll get an 'A'. That's a tip, kids. Write it down." - Calvin from 'Scientific Progress Goes Boink' From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Sat Nov 14 20:48:01 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 20:48:01 +0100 Subject: Uncle Scrooge's Life Message-ID: <9211141948.AA03837@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Yet another addition to the Don Rosa index: the third part of Uncle Scrooge's life is in the current Scandinavian books (47/92). "Scrooge's Life: The Vagabond in the Wild West", 15 pages, D 92008. (I've retranslated the title from Swedish back into English. I don't know what the original title was.) I'm still ambivalent to Rosa's stories, and this one didn't do much for me. I'll be very unspecific here as not to spoil the story for anyone, but there's a totally uncalled-for appearance of a character mentioned in a story by Barks, as well as the appearance of a real-world character. Add to this some gags, but not much of a story, and that's it. During his time Barks showed us some glimpses of Scrooge's earlier life, and I think it's interesting to see another duck fan, like Rosa, trying to piece it all together, *but* I think it's hard to make new interesting stories that stand on their own in the process. There's another attempt at collecting all the tidbits of information on Scrooge's youth I know of, which doesn't have this problem as it doesn't try to make new stories aimed for "the masses" out of it, but contents itself with the collecting and piecing together of facts from Barks's stories. That is Jack L. Chalker's book "An Informal Biography of Scrooge McDuck". Pretty fun reading, I think, but it's difficult to come by. (I have it xeroxed somewhere --- can't find it now.) -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Sun Nov 15 20:36:35 1992 From: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 13:36:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: THE CARL BARKS AUTOGRAPH EDITION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > THE CARL BARKS AUTOGRAPH EDITION > A new "very limited release" Carl Barks Autograph Edition with > "AN AUTOGRAPH IN INK SO LARGE YOU CAN SEE IT ACROSS THE ROOM." > is about to be released. This edition will contain the following: > 1, A Carl Barks autograph in "indelible permanent black ink" on acid > free, pH buffered 100% rag, Rives BFK autograph paper from France > (!) > 2, An exclusive photograph of Carl Barks. The negative has been destroyed > 3, A pristine mint copy of early Whitman classic Barks comics "Only a > poor old man" under acid free Mylar. If this is an original, then it had better be de-acidified. You could store a newspaper in Mylar, lock it in an argon gas vault, and it would still decay. If it is a special reprinting, then make sure the paper quality is very good. > 4, A complete set of five 14" x 18" acid free, pH buffered mats > This edition is extremely limited. 245 copies for US and 30 for > Germany and Finland (?!?!) > All this for only (?) about 200 $ A small point, but the "$" goes in front, even though it is pronounced "two hundred dollars". Your English is better than my... what do you speak, Swedish? > For more information contact > Grandey & Morby Productions > Box 82031 > Kennmore, WA 98028 > USA > Phone/Fax (206) 488-7377 Torsten at Omaha From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Mon Nov 16 19:14:33 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 16 Nov 1992 19:14:33 +0100 Subject: New releases, some info on DuckTales, Rich's list Message-ID: <199211161814.AA22202@athena.research.ptt.nl> " 1. Per Starback writes: > >From a posting to rec.arts.comics.info: > > New releases for the week of November 11: > > [...] > > Disney > > Colossal Comics Collection 8 > > Dinosaurs 1 > > Donald Duck Adventures 33 > > Contents, anyone? I went to a comic book shop last saturday, but the issues above were not there yet. Since DDA #32 contains "Return to Bear Mountain" part 1, I expect #33 to contain part 2... (BTW: story Tom Anderson, art Branca, code D 9614) ---- 2. The Rosa story "War of the Wendigo" is scheduled for Uncle $crooge #278 and #279. In U$ 275 there will be an all new center-spread by Rosa, specially made for Disney Comics. ---- 3. About the DuckTales index, we discussed a while ago: in the shop, I saw issue 24/25 of "The Duckburg Times". It has a very extensive index on the first 3 seasons (I think) of "DuckTales", with authors, artists, voices etc. They also had an advertisement for an even completer index (book). ---- 4. New character for Rich Bellacera's list: While browsing through my Gladstone comics, I found a story with a the character 'Chi-chi', a female chipmunk. She appeared in the Chip 'n' Dale story, in Gladstone's WDC 456, 1990. This is a reprint of WDC 225, 1959 (author unknown, art Jack Bradbury). I discussed this with Per Starback, and he thinks the character may occur in some other stories as well, hence she would be a 'recurring character'. If anyone remembers in which stories she occurs, then tell us... That's all.. --Harry Fluks. From rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com Tue Nov 17 09:39:00 1992 From: rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com (rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com) Date: Tuesday, 17 November 1992 09:39 PT Subject: Mickey comics strips of c. 1966 Message-ID: Yesterday I picked up a thick softback book called "Mickey Mouse Fifty Happy Years: The Official Birthday Book" by David Bain & Bruce Harris. Published in 1977 by Harmony Books, New York. 255 pages. I purchased it at an antiques store in Gilroy California for a bargain! :-) Anyhow as I was perusing the comics strip section of the book I noticed at least atleast three different comics which depicted some previously undiscussed re - occurring characters. Namely Millie & Alvin. Here are some interesting things I noted about these two characters. 1. Millie was/is Morty's girlfriend. 2. Alvin was/is Morty's best friend. 3. Both Millie & Alvin are dognoses. 4. Neither character are directly related (both have different mothers). 5. Also, during this time period, apparently Morty was living with Mickey on a regular basis and Ferdie was glaringly absent (Does anyone know why?). These comics were distributed by King Features Syndicate around 1966 and later, and they appeared in the Sunday Comics section of newspapers in color and were drawn by Manuel Gonzales, written by Roy Williams. Others appeared in the Mickey Mouse Daily Gags (gag-a-day strips) drawn by Flyd Gottfredson (i.e. the gag featuring Mickey & Minnie double dating with Morty & Millie dated 2-7-69). Can anyone supply more info on these two characters and are they worth of mention in the Recurring Characters list? Thanks From jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 11:05:55 1992 From: jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu (Jamal Hannah) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 5:05:55 EST Subject: My Favorite Artists Message-ID: <9211181005.AA18021@silver.lcs.mit.edu> Well, I like Barks and Don Rosa as much as anyone, but are there any other fans of Al Hubbard out there? I really liked the way he drew animals of all kinds in "Scamp" (Along with the reprinted "Lady and the Tramp" comic, which seemed to have better, less- rushed work than the later Scamp comics did.) I also liked the work of the artist who did "Little Bad Wolf" for a while.. there seem to be two prominant artists.. one who did the very early stuff, (the 1st Lil' Bad Wolf stories) and than another who did a great bulk of the latter ones. Mike Kazaleh is definatly a favorite penciler to me.. the only Disney work I can think of that he has done would be the illustrated "Tummy Trouble" Graphic Novel for Disney. Aside from his own "Captain Jack" Comic from Fantagraphics books, his other work included pencils for an issue of Marvel's "Mighty Mouse", "The Mighty Mutimals", as well as the recent "Ren and Stimpy Show #1".. but thats a different subject. However, he's a great artist to look for, should he do any more Disney work. I really like how Disney seems to be serious about artistic quality in some of their stories these days (still not all of them are up to snuff, but some are) .. I would go so far as to say that the art for "Darkwing Duck" in "Colossal Comics Collection #6" is up there with artwork in the Italian Disney book ("Il Grandi Classicci Disney", or something like that), which seemed somewhat superior to the artwork I was seeing from American Disney-Comic artists for a while. I also like the artwork in "Alladin", a comic that came out somewhat better than the "Beuty and the Beast" books, which seemed to have some printing problems. (the ones I saw did) - Jamal Hannah jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Wed Nov 18 12:53:28 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:53:28 +0100 Subject: The Carl Barks Autograph Edition In-Reply-To: Torsten Wesley Adair's message of Sun, 15 Nov 1992 13:36:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <9211181153.AA22279@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Johan Urbanyik informed about: > THE CARL BARKS AUTOGRAPH EDITION > A new "very limited release" Carl Barks Autograph Edition with > "AN AUTOGRAPH IN INK SO LARGE YOU CAN SEE IT ACROSS THE ROOM." > is about to be released. This edition will contain the following: > [...] > 3, A pristine mint copy of early Whitman classic Barks comics "Only a > poor old man" under acid free Mylar. Torsten: > If this is an original, then it had better be de-acidified. You could > store a newspaper in Mylar, lock it in an argon gas vault, and it would > still decay. Whitman was the company that took over the publication of Disney comics in 1980 (?), so "early Whitman" is still pretty new stuff. I guess this is US 195 (from 1980), a book worth $1.40 in mint in Overstreet 1987-88 (the only Overstreet I have). It's a really good story (reprinted later in Gladstone Album #20), but no reason to spend $200. If it's worth $200 to be able to read Carl Barks's autograph across your room is another thing. I'm certainly more happy reading his *comics* closer than a foot from my eyes. -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Can we go fishin', too?" From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Wed Nov 18 13:05:30 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:05:30 +0100 Subject: Rosa center-spread, The Duckburg Times In-Reply-To: Harry Fluks's message of 16 Nov 1992 19:14:33 +0100 <199211161814.AA22202@athena.research.ptt.nl> Message-ID: <9211181205.AA22631@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Harry Fluks wrote: > In U$ 275 there will be an all new center-spread by Rosa, specially made > for Disney Comics. Strange... Will Rosa get his original for that back? > [...] I saw issue 24/25 of "The Duckburg Times". It has [...] Ah, I didn't know The Duckburg Times still existed---the latest ish I have is #22 (1987). Is it the same address (400 Valleyview Selah, WA 98942) and price (four issue subscription $5, sample $1.25, overseas rates double (*sigh*))? -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Thu Nov 19 18:30:58 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:30:58 +0100 Subject: Rosa center-spread, The Duckburg Times Message-ID: <199211191730.AA07923@athena.research.ptt.nl> I, Harry Fluks wrote: >> In U$ 275 there will be an all new center-spread by Rosa, specially made >> for Disney Comics. " Per Starback replied: > Strange... Will Rosa get his original for that back? I don't know. And Per said about issue 24/25 of "The Duckburg Times": > Ah, I didn't know The Duckburg Times still existed---the latest ish I > have is #22 (1987). Is it the same address (400 Valleyview Selah, WA > 98942) and price (four issue subscription $5, sample $1.25, overseas > rates double (*sigh*))? Again, I don't know. I saw the issue in a comic book shop ("Professor Ich", Amsterdam) but I didn't buy it. Harry Fluks PTT Research, Leidschendam, Netherlands H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Fri Nov 20 01:02:58 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:02:58 +0100 Subject: My Favorite Artists In-Reply-To: Jamal Hannah's message of Wed, 18 Nov 92 5:05:55 EST <9211181005.AA18021@silver.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <9211200002.AA04656@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Jamal Hannah wrote: > Well, I like Barks and Don Rosa as much as anyone, but are there any > other fans of Al Hubbard out there? I really liked the way he drew > animals of all kinds in "Scamp" (Along with the reprinted > "Lady and the Tramp" comic, which seemed to have better, less- > rushed work than the later Scamp comics did.) Yeah, I like Al Hubbard a lot! The looseness of his lines, and the expressiveness of his characters. All his dogs and cats are so damn cute too. I generally dislike speculative cuteness, but Hubbard makes them in such a way that I just can't help loving them. :-) He has done many adaptions of the animated features, not only Lady and the Tramp, but also e.g., Dumbo, Peter Pan, The Jungle Book, and Aristocats. He has also done Mickey, Chip & Dale, the ducks, Li'l Bad Wolf, etc. > I also liked the work of the artist who did "Little Bad Wolf" > for a while.. there seem to be two prominant artists.. one who > did the very early stuff, (the 1st Lil' Bad Wolf stories) and > than another who did a great bulk of the latter ones. The very early stuff was by Carl Buettner, who worked at Western mostly as an editor or art director or something like that, but who also did some stories himself. The later artist you mention must be Gil Turner, even if lots of other artists also did some wolf stories (Jack Bradbury, Paul Murry, Harvey Eisenberg, Al Hubbard, Frank McSavage, ...) -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Fri Nov 20 17:17:33 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 20 Nov 1992 17:17:33 +0100 Subject: My Favorite Artists Message-ID: <199211201617.AA00967@athena.research.ptt.nl> " Per Starback replied: > The very early [Bad Wolf] stuff was by Carl Buettner, who worked at Western > mostly as an editor or art director or something like that, but who > also did some stories himself. You called him Carl *Von* Buettner in the Gladstone Digest list, if I'm not mistaken. Is this his 'real' name? --Harry. From rivers at seismo.CSS.GOV Fri Nov 20 17:28:30 1992 From: rivers at seismo.CSS.GOV (Wilmer Rivers) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 11:28:30 EST Subject: Duckburg Times Message-ID: <9211201628.AA06897@beno.CSS.GOV> Per Starbuck writes: > Ah, I didn't know The Duckburg Times still existed---the latest ish I > have is #22 (1987). Is it the same address (400 Valleyview Selah, WA > 98942) and price (four issue subscription $5, sample $1.25, overseas > rates double (*sigh*))? The Nov. 27 issue of the "Comics Buyers Guide" has the following infor- mation: "Duckburg Times#24/25, a special double-sized issue devoted to the DuckTales animated television series, was recently published... Single copies of #24/25 are $3 from 3010 Wilshire Blvd. #362, Los Angeles, Calif. 90010."" The article also mentions the van Horn cover, the contents of the issue, and plans to make the fanzine (physically) larger, but I suppose I shouldn't quote too much of that article without permission, in order to avoid all sorts of copyright trouble (although the recent "Fanboy Press" parody in the "Ambush Bug Nothing Special # 1" comic certainly does a lot more damage to CBG than I am liable to do here!). Anyway, I hadn't seen a copy of the Duckburg Times in years either, so I plan to send away for this one. Has anyone out there done so yet? Has anyone other than Harry seen a copy in a store? Wilmer Rivers From rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com Fri Nov 20 18:15:00 1992 From: rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com (rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com) Date: Friday, 20 November 1992 18:15 PT Subject: The Duckburg Times Message-ID: William, Per and others- I picked up the copy of the Duckburg Times about two weeks ago. I've really only had time to thumb through it. It is full of facts about the Animated series and has a synopsis of each episode. It lists voice credits and signif- icant details about many characters (even minor ones). One thing it explained was that the Phantom Blot actually does appear in one episode (and Per & I thought he hadn't). It's a little on the 'dry' side reading wise, but it is informative and it even lists another source for much deeper reading about Ducktales. -Rich From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Sat Nov 21 22:41:12 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:41:12 +0100 Subject: Carl Buettner, The Duckburg Times, The Phantom Blot, Don Rosa Message-ID: <9211212141.AA12628@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Carl (Von) Buettner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ me> (...) Carl Buettner (...) Harry> You called him Carl *Von* Buettner in the Gladstone Digest Harry> list, if I'm not mistaken. Harry> Is this his 'real' name? In most places I've seen his name it's been Carl Von Buettner, but in Becattini's "Disney Index" he's called just Carl Buettner, even if it says his full name was with a Von. I guess he didn't use the Von of his name. Actually it says "nee Carl Von Buettner" in the book, but that's an English error, isn't it? At least I though nee was only used for "the name you're born with" for people (read women) who changed their last name when they married? In Becattini's book there are things like "Jack Hannah, nee John Frederick Hannah". The Duckburg Times ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks to Wilmer Rivers for the address. I guess I will write Dana Gabbard (if he's still the editor) and ask about it. I had a subscription of it before, but I guess it's not valid anymore. As this was #24/25, and the last issue I have is #22 --- does anyone know what's in #23? The Phantom Blot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rich> One thing it explained was that the Phantom Blot actually does Rich> appear in one episode (and Per & I thought he hadn't). OK, I guess the has-only-appeared-in-comics mark for him in your list should go away then. It's funny how DuckTales has used so many Disney *comics* characters --- before that the characters always moved the other way. Don Rosa's series on Scrooge's youth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm back today from a meeting of NAFS(k), the Swedish Donaldists. Someone had discovered serious incompatibilities between part three of Rosa's series and an old Barks story. Tsk tsk... And here I thought Rosa knew his stuff. :-) (I'll say no more, as only Scandinavians have had a chance to read the story yet.) Part 4 will be in 2/93 and part 5 in 11/93 here in Scandinavia. Besides that Rosa's been doing a "long story about books" for Norway, but that hasn't been published yet. Regarding Rosa: did anyone catch the following in the fourth page of his "Treasure under Glass": Huey: It's just another empty barque! Dewey: Maybe it's the one that cut *coral* for building forts on the keys where they had no stone! Louie: Yeah... I've *heard* of coral barques! -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se From jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 02:11:32 1992 From: jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu (Jamal Hannah) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:11:32 EST Subject: Freddie Milton In-Reply-To: <9211212141.AA12628@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>; from "Per Starb{ck" at Nov 22, 92 10:41:12 pm Message-ID: <9211230111.AA05271@silver.lcs.mit.edu> Has anyone out there heard of a Danish cartoonist named "Freddie Milton"? He did work is the comic called "Critters".. aside from Don Rosa, he seems to be one of the most visibly Barks-inspired artists out there. - jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Mon Nov 23 18:30:30 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:30:30 +0100 Subject: Freddie Milton Message-ID: <199211231730.AA25491@athena.research.ptt.nl> Jamal Hannah writes: > Has anyone out there heard of a Danish cartoonist named "Freddie Milton"? > He did work in the comic called "Critters".. aside from Don Rosa, he > seems to be one of the most visibly Barks-inspired artists out there. Yes, I heard of him. He made a lot of Duck stories for the Dutch publisher Oberon, from 1976 on. In the beginning, his stories were in cooperation with Dutch artist Daan Jippes. The artwork is very Barks-like (and I like the stories very much). Since Jippes went to the USA (and didn't help Milton anymore), the stories are not that good... Most early Milton/Jippes stories were reprinted in the USA in Gladstone's WDC. If you want to know in which issues, ask Per Starback for his list of H-coded (= Dutch) stories in Gladstone comics. (Note: Milton is Danish, but the stories are "Dutch". Most of the stories were probably never printed in Denmark!) Milton also made some Woody Woodpecker stories (44 pages), and he created a new comic family: "Familien Gnuff", with 10-page stories appearing in the Woody Woodpecker comic books in Denmark (and in other European countries). (BTW: I think Milton's first name is Freddy...) --Harry From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Mon Nov 23 19:03:30 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:03:30 +0100 Subject: Freddy Milton In-Reply-To: Harry Fluks's message of 23 Nov 1992 18:30:30 +0100 <199211231730.AA25491@athena.research.ptt.nl> Message-ID: <9211231803.AA22059@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Harry Fluks wrote (in answer to Jamal Hannah): > Most early Milton/Jippes stories were reprinted in the USA in > Gladstone's WDC. If you want to know in which issues, ask Per > Starback for his list of H-coded (= Dutch) stories in Gladstone > comics. (Note: Milton is Danish, but the stories are "Dutch". Most > of the stories were probably never printed in Denmark!) Milton has also made a couple of stories for the Danish publisher, at least D 3877 in Swedish KA 17/77 about a magpie which is a mascot for our favourite patrol of the Junior Woodchucks. I think one of his first duck stories was called "The Big Sneeze", but he couldn't sell it and later he re-made it with other characters instead of the ducks. Besides doing comics Freddy Milton has been the editor of the Danish fanzine "Carl Barks & Co." up to #18 (the current issue is #19). > Milton also made some Woody Woodpecker stories (44 pages), and he created > a new comic family: "Familien Gnuff", with 10-page stories appearing in the > Woody Woodpecker comic books in Denmark (and in other European countries). He has done more Woody Woodpecker than that. But maybe that's only published here in Scandinavia? I think it's the Gnuffs that has appeared in Critters (I don't have Critters though). > (BTW: I think Milton's first name is Freddy...) Yep! -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Tue Nov 24 00:57:01 1992 From: starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Starb{ck) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 00:57:01 +0100 Subject: Freddy Milton In-Reply-To: Harry Fluks's message of 23 Nov 1992 19:29:25 +0100 <199211231829.AA26782@athena.research.ptt.nl> Message-ID: <9211232357.AA02674@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Harry wrote this in a message to me that I guess was meant for the list: > Per Starback wrote (in answer to me=Harry Fluks, who wrote in answer to > Jamal Hannah): > > > I think one of his > > first duck stories was called "The Big Sneeze", but he couldn't sell > > it and later he re-made it with other characters instead of the ducks. > > I think this could be "The big Sneezer", a 31-page Duck story he _did_ > do for Holland (code: H 8001). It wasn't one of his first stories, but > maybe one of the first without Jippes. > Milton re-made this story as a W.Woodpecker story (also reprinted in > Holland). > "The big Sneezer" is a very good story. Maybe someone could convince Disney > to reprint it in the USA? They may not know it exists. > > --Harry. Now I've found a reference: the interview with Milton in the German book "Disney von Innen". I quote (and translate): _The Big Sneeze_ was published as a 31 page story in the Dutch Groot Vakantieboek 1980. It was drawn as a Donald Duck story by Milton already in 1974. When the Danish producer couldn't use it he got permission to print it himself, if he changed the heads of Donald and the nephews. So Donald Duck became --- Kalle Klodrik. (_Freddy Milton prsenterer Kalle Klodrik i 'Det Store Nys'_, 1976, 30 pages) The title The Big SneezeR seems to have been an invention of Oberon. Evidently he tried to sell the story in the USA as well before going to Oberon, because this letter from Western is reproduced as well: Dear Mr. Milton: Your enclosed Donald Duck story, "The Big Sneeze," arrived several days ago. I read it with interest and was surprised how well you achieved the "Carl Barks" look. You evidently studied "Barks" art from some of his early issues as Donald's beak is no longer as long as you drew it. Unfortunately, we cannot use a story of this length. Also, as you know, most of our Donald stories these days are reprints. We are not producing the number of books that we did years ago and, as a result, there are artists and writers nearby who would do more work if I had the assignments. I know there is a great amount of work in your story; I am somewhat surpriesed that you went ahead with it before finding out if there was a market for it. Perhaps through the Dutch company that you have submitted comic book art to, you could learn the names of companies in other countries who procude /sic/ Disney comic book material --- such as Italy, England, etc. It is possible they could use a long story --- or could encourage you to do other stories and art for them. I wish you good luck. Sincerely yours, Del Connell Editor Del Connell wrote lots of Disney stories himself, btw. In a way it's ironic with artists who prefer to work with characters owned by a big company instead of working with their own characters, when they have the opportunity to do so, but evidently Milton wanted the duck version of The Big Sneeze much more than the Kalle Klodrik version. It's the same with Don Rosa who said that he really thought about the ducks when he did the Pertwillaby stories, and that he will remake those stories with the ducks substituted. I wonder what happens legally with stories like the Kalle Klodrik Big Sneeze and Pertwillaby stories later remade as duck stories... Will the creators have the rights to republish those stories now that they've sold the same story to Disney? -- " Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: Per.Starback at student.docs.uu.se "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!" From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Tue Nov 24 09:02:44 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 24 Nov 1992 09:02:44 +0100 Subject: Freddy Milton (2) Message-ID: <199211240802.AA01699@athena.research.ptt.nl> Per Starback wrote (in answer to me=Harry Fluks, who wrote in answer to Jamal Hannah): > I think one of his > first duck stories was called "The Big Sneeze", but he couldn't sell > it and later he re-made it with other characters instead of the ducks. I think this could be "The big Sneezer", a 31-page Duck story he _did_ do for Holland (code: H 8001). It wasn't one of his first stories, but maybe one of the first without Jippes. Milton re-made this story as a W.Woodpecker story (also reprinted in Holland). "The big Sneezer" is a very good story. Maybe someone could convince Disney to reprint it in the USA? They may not know it exists. --Harry. From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Tue Nov 24 18:31:01 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 24 Nov 1992 18:31:01 +0100 Subject: Rich's character list, Gladstone (and other) Indexes Message-ID: <199211241731.AA24803@athena.research.ptt.nl> 1. Rich's character list It seems that Grandma Duck has not only a Dutch name (Dora), but also a Danish name: Andrea And ("And" = "Duck"). (I found this name in the first Danish comic I ever bought: it was only the equivalent of $0.25 in a Dutch comic book shop) No English name yet, but the search continues... ---- 2. Gladstone Index There has been some interest in compiling a Gladstone index, or even a Complete Disney Comics Index (CDCI, Per's dream)... I am working on a Big Dutch Index (BDI, TM) at the moment: it contains all Dutch issues with their stories. I completed 90% now, and I hope to be finished (99%) in one or two weeks. Maybe some information of this index could be used in making a Gladstone Index, or a CDCI (my dream too). Anyway, when my BDI is finished, I think I could help making a Gladstone index. But we still have to agree on the form of such an index (e.g. how to indicate the artists). Per, Hannes, other volunteers: how do we do this? --Harry. From Hannes.Faestermann at Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE Wed Nov 25 10:21:35 1992 From: Hannes.Faestermann at Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hannes.Faestermann@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 10:21:35 +0100 Subject: Gladstone Index Message-ID: <199211250921.AA24467@srv.cip.physik.tu-muenchen.de> Hi there, as Harry mentioned in his last mail, he is willing to take part in creating a complete Gladstone index (after finishing his Big Dutch Index :) ). As for the format of such a beast I propose something similar to the Barks-Don Rosa/Gladstone index I sent some time ago. This was in the form: US210 'Origin of the Beagle Boys'(10) 'The moving money bin'(6.75) i.e., the Gladstone title in short, the number, the title of the story (or in quotes a short description, if there was no title) and the length in pages. In addition to this the credits should be mentioned - author, artist... What I can't provide from here is the original source - this must be added by someone else. This is just a foundation for a discussion, not a finished format, though. Any comments are welcome. Hannes Hannes Faestermann | Internet: Physik-Department E17 | Hannes.Faestermann at Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE TU Muenchen, | 8046 Garching, West Germany | -- "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." Calvin (Weirdos from another planet, Watterson) From rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com Wed Nov 25 18:38:00 1992 From: rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com (rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com) Date: Wednesday, 25 November 1992 18:38 PT Subject: The Little Mermaid & The Disney Character Encyclopedia Message-ID: Is anyone on either of these lists real familiar with the DTA Saturday Morning Little Mermaid series? Here in San Jose California we have only just started receiving the show broadcasted on local Channel 20 (KOFY). Prior to that it was only on channel 46 (?) which wasn't readily accessible. Anyhow, I really like this show. Having only caught the "Whale of a Tale" episode previously I was still impressed by the animation, however I felt the characterizations and stories were a tad contrieved. Now that I have seen upwards to 4 episodes I've reconsidered my first impression. The stories are still a bit juvenile, but they are quite well done. They seem to be true to the same stylings as that which was portrayed in the Little Mermaid limited comic series a year ago. I've also found several digest sized storybooks (with some illustrations in B&W) which seem to reflect the series quite well. There was also a hardbound book which had more adventures of TLM and full color illustrations (can be found at the Disney Stores). One of the digest stories told about Countessa Peal (daughter of Countess Oystera, a rather large dignitary). I caught the episode (last Saturday?) called "Red" and it had an appearance by Pearl there too. Since I missed so many past episodes of TLM can someone fill me in on some of the regular re-occurring characters like Mobster Lobster, Urchin, Pearl, and others. Also, in the digest books Ariel's favorite seahorse to ride is named "Crystal." Does this horse appear in the series too? Thank you. Also, I have been regularly checking with the local bookstores for John Grant's "Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters". It has been told to me by them that it was due out some time in November. Well, it's nearly the end of November and they tell me it is still "unavailable". Does anyone know what's up? -Rich From H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl Fri Nov 27 09:45:10 1992 From: H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl (Harry Fluks) Date: 27 Nov 1992 09:45:10 +0100 Subject: Swedish Kalle Anka & C:o Message-ID: <199211270845.AA19538@athena.research.ptt.nl> I just got my first Swedish Disney issue (from a friend who went to Sweden for a few days). It's Kalle Anka & C:o 48 (new! now 48 pages!). I noticed they reprinted a Dutch story, "The wishing well" (H 85110). This story is drawn by Mark de Jonge. In fact, the third page of the story (page 7 of the comic) is the 100th page that De Jonge drew. Notice the '100'-painting on the first panel. The page circulated internally with some other text, about De Jonge making 3 stories at the same time, to catch up with Barks' production. (It is not so that Dutch artists celebrate every 100th page they produce... The only other noticeable celebration is of the 1000th script page of Jan Kruse. It has a newspaper on the first panel, with a portrait of Kruse and the text 'member of the club of 1000') BTW: are there any other 'hidden' celebrations in other countries' Disney comics? --Harry. From torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Fri Nov 27 15:27:16 1992 From: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1992 08:27:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: Rich's character list, Gladstone (and other) Indexes In-Reply-To: <199211241731.AA24803@athena.research.ptt.nl> Message-ID: On 24 Nov 1992, Harry Fluks wrote: > 1. Rich's character list > It seems that Grandma Duck has not only a Dutch name (Dora), but also > a Danish name: Andrea And ("And" = "Duck"). > (I found this name in the first Danish comic I ever bought: it was only > the equivalent of $0.25 in a Dutch comic book shop) > No English name yet, but the search continues... > ---- > 2. Gladstone Index > There has been some interest in compiling a Gladstone index, or even a > Complete Disney Comics Index (CDCI, Per's dream)... > I am working on a Big Dutch Index (BDI, TM) at the moment: it contains all > Dutch issues with their stories. I completed 90% now, and I hope to be > finished (99%) in one or two weeks. > Maybe some information of this index could be used in making a Gladstone > Index, or a CDCI (my dream too). > Anyway, when my BDI is finished, I think I could help making a Gladstone > index. But we still have to agree on the form of such an index (e.g. how > to indicate the artists). > Per, Hannes, other volunteers: how do we do this? > --Harry. If you are going to make an index of Disney stories, I suggest that a paragraph be written for each story. The paragraph should include: Control number (same for each language version?) Title (enter the version you have, and transcribe it into English. Remember to put the title in [brackets] if you have to create one, and put the language identifier in (parenthesis). As other people contribute foreign titles, they can be added. Writer Artist(s) If not known, put in parenthesis who the contributor is thought to be. Add notes if necessary. Issue(s) the story has appeared in. After each issue, put in parenthesis the country (not the language) where the issue was published. Add a note if the country publishes in more than one language (like Canada). Characters List any significant characters (use abbreviations for popular characters... MdS, US, DD, GyG, HDL, BB, GlG). Use American names, and include an appendix that crosslists foreign names. If a new character appears in a foreign (non-U.S.) edition, list the name and make a note of his/her/its apperance and character. Synopsis Tell, in two or three sentences, what happens in the story. References Notes for further reading. Include here geographic notes for Uncle Scrooge stories, and story notes for continued stories (Plain Awful, etc.). Subject headings should be included in the index at the end of the book. Include: Character apperances Recurring themes (Donald's employment, US's magic dime, Junior Woodchucks) Authors, artists, movie titles, actors who appear in Disney comic books These are suggestions. There is a books series in the U.S. called The Photojournalist's Guide to Comic Book Covers. It contains nothing put page after page of photos of comic book covers! I don't know if Disney has been done yet, and if it hasn't, it probably will be eventually. I look forward to your index! Torsten at Omaha From torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Fri Nov 27 16:09:16 1992 From: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1992 09:09:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: The Little Mermaid & The Disney Character Encyclopedia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Nov 1992 rich.bellacera at amail.amdahl.com wrote: ... > Also, I have been regularly checking with the local bookstores for John > Grant's "Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters". It has been told > to me by them that it was due out some time in November. Well, it's nearly > the end of November and they tell me it is still "unavailable". Does anyone > know what's up? The Omaha Public Library received this title last week (11/22/92). It should be out in bookstores, unless it's a somewhat obscure reference title, which it didn't appear to be. Try more than one bookstore. Torsten at Omaha From torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Fri Nov 27 16:16:15 1992 From: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1992 09:16:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: Rich's character list, Gladstone (and other) Indexes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Nov 1992, Torsten Wesley Adair wrote: > On 24 Nov 1992, Harry Fluks wrote: > > 1. Rich's character list > > It seems that Grandma Duck has not only a Dutch name (Dora), but also > > a Danish name: Andrea And ("And" = "Duck"). > > (I found this name in the first Danish comic I ever bought: it was only > > the equivalent of $0.25 in a Dutch comic book shop) > > No English name yet, but the search continues... > > ---- > > 2. Gladstone Index > > There has been some interest in compiling a Gladstone index, or even a > > Complete Disney Comics Index (CDCI, Per's dream)... > > I am working on a Big Dutch Index (BDI, TM) at the moment: it contains all > > Dutch issues with their stories. I completed 90% now, and I hope to be > > finished (99%) in one or two weeks. > > Maybe some information of this index could be used in making a Gladstone > > Index, or a CDCI (my dream too). > > Anyway, when my BDI is finished, I think I could help making a Gladstone > > index. But we still have to agree on the form of such an index (e.g. how > > to indicate the artists). > > Per, Hannes, other volunteers: how do we do this? > > --Harry. > > If you are going to make an index of Disney stories, I suggest that a > paragraph be written for each story. The paragraph should include: > Control number (same for each language version?) > Title (enter the version you have, and transcribe it into English. > Remember to put the title in [brackets] if you have to > create one, and put the language identifier in (parenthesis). > As other people contribute foreign titles, they can be added. > Writer > Artist(s) > If not known, put in parenthesis who the contributor is > thought to be. Add notes if necessary. > Issue(s) the story has appeared in. List the title of the magazine in the original language, with the issue number and the date after it. List the number of pages, > and put in parenthesis the country (not the > language) where the issue was published. Add a note if the > country publishes in more than one language (like Canada). > Characters > List any significant characters (use abbreviations for > popular characters... MdS, US, DD, GyG, HDL, BB, GlG). > Use American names, and include an appendix that crosslists > foreign names. If a new character appears in a foreign > (non-U.S.) edition, list the name and make a note of his/her/its > apperance and character. > Synopsis > Tell, in two or three sentences, what happens in the story. > References > Notes for further reading. Include here geographic notes > for Uncle Scrooge stories, and story notes for continued > stories (Plain Awful, etc.). > > Subject headings should be included in the index at the end of the book. > Include: > Character apperances > Recurring themes (Donald's employment, US's magic dime, Junior > Woodchucks) > Authors, artists, movie titles, actors who appear in Disney comic books > > > These are suggestions. > > There is a books series in the U.S. called The Photojournalist's Guide to > Comic Book Covers. It contains nothing put page after page of photos of comic > book covers! I don't know if Disney has been done yet, and if it hasn't, > it probably will be eventually. > > I look forward to your index! > > Torsten at Omaha Torsten at Omaha From torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Mon Nov 30 00:24:50 1992 From: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1992 17:24:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: Gladstone Index In-Reply-To: <199211250921.AA24467@srv.cip.physik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: Once a format is selected for the Disney Index, I think that a general manual should be created that shows how subscribers should create entries. An archived site should be created that would store all of the Disney entries online. This archive should be moderated like an electronic journal. A subscriber would submit an entry for inclusion in the Index. The Moderator, acting as an editor, would review the entry and either add it to the Index, or send it back to the subscriber with a list of corrections that need to be made. The most important file in the archives would be a list of issues that have been indexed. The format might be: Country code (I would use the international abbreviations that one sees on cars e.g. D (Deutschland=Germany), USA, CH (Switzerland). Magazine title, number, and date (month/year) Publisher code (Is this necessary? In the USA, Gladstone and Disney continued the numbering of Dell/Gold Key. Do other publishers renumber the titles from a previous publisher?) The Index would be arranged by production numbers, and would also contain a title index. The issue list would just be a way of keeping track of what has been indexed. Files within the archives: Title List (issues that have been analyzed) Title Index (index of stories that have been entered into the Index) Character Index (index of characters that appear in Disney comic books) Production Number Index (Should the entries be arranged by production number, or given a generic number? Arrangement by magazine or story titles is not possible, given the variety of titles and reprints for each story. Real Person Index (people who contributed to the stories: authors, artists, colorists, inkers, letterers, editors) Subject Index (Entries would be taken from the notes. This index would not be as precise as the others, as each contributor would decide what to list. The Editor would also add or simplify these entries. I think this index should have a Latin name to make it universal, and to add some class to it. Index Disneus (?). Any Latin scholars out there? I'm going to stick my neck out here. I know very little about running a listserver, or how to access one. I do know how to catalog information so that it can be accessible. Therefore, I am willing to serve as AN editor (there should be one for each country that publishes Disney, so that editors who submit entries can send them to other editors for revision). As a matter of policy, each submission should be sent to all of the editors. The editors would make suggestions, forward them to the editor in charge of a certain country or region, and that editor would compile the comments and forward them to the submittor. newsgroups dealing with Disney comics: Disney comics in general (what we have now) Disney archives (where the Index would be stored) Disney editors (where submissions are sent. Only editors would have access to this list. Should others? Or should comments only be taken after the entry has been posted? Perhaps what should be done is that after the editors are finished with an entry, it should be posted to the general public for their opinions, insights, etc. before being added to the Index.) Should the archives group be broken down into smaller groups, each dealing with a specific aspect (titles, entries, characters, etc.)? Is there anyone out there who knows how to manage something like this? This would be incredible if it happens! Torsten at Omaha From torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Mon Nov 30 01:17:20 1992 From: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1992 18:17:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Beagle Boys In-Reply-To: <199211240802.AA01699@athena.research.ptt.nl> Message-ID: Recent Disney Comics story Cover: Uncle Scrooge sitting in an empty (!) money bin. The story was about the Beagle Boys getting paroled. Each had learned a specific subject to aid them in their quest to steal US's money. US moved all of his money to an old castle. My question is this: How many Beagle Boys are there? If they all have the same three numbers at the beginning, then mathematically there can only be six unique numbers: 167, 176, 617, 671, 716, 761 (I think these are right.) However, in some of the panels, eight Beagels are seen! And this is a Barks story! Torsten at Omaha