mm magazine variation

dennis books comicchar_shop at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 1 00:16:19 CET 2004


Checked my copies and the one with the little mickey does NOT contain the K.K. Publications copyright statement. I might guess that some are store bought copies vs subscription issues.
 
Dennis

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2. Mickey Mouse Magazine variation? (Pedersen Hans)
3. Re: Mickey Mouse Magazine variation? (SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
4. Re: Mickey Mouse Magazine variation? (Ordi_sas)
5. Let me plot the ways... (Lars Jensen)
6. Scarpa and "Duck Tales" (Lars Jensen)
7. Shrinking gag (Lars Jensen)
8. Paperinik (Lars Jensen)


> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 
From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" 
Subject: Gemstone for dummies, some questions
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 14:51:15 +0100
To: 

In private, someone asked me for information about Gemstone.

Can you tell me some URLs where I can find this information, 
or can you give a summary of what Gemstone is doing, with a 
list of their products, and their contact information?

Thanks in advance!

--- Daniël




> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822 
From: Pedersen Hans 
Subject: Mickey Mouse Magazine variation?
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:22:41 -0800 (PST)
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se

Someone recently pointed out to me that there is a variation
of the 1930s Mickey Mouse Magazines that I had never noticed
or seen described anywhere. Since then, I've observed it on 
several other copies. Does anyone know the reason for this 
difference and which issues it affected?

Example

Thanks, Hans




> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822 
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
Subject: Re: Mickey Mouse Magazine variation?
CC: 
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:31:51 EST
To: hanskped at yahoo.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se

In a message dated 2/28/2004 7:23:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, hanskped at yahoo.com writes:
Someone recently pointed out to me that there is a variation
of the 1930s Mickey Mouse Magazines that I had never noticed
or seen described anywhere. Since then, I've observed it on 
several other copies. Does anyone know the reason for this 
difference and which issues it affected?
looks like a distributor code... but i wont swear to it.....
 
steven rowe


> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822 
From: Ordi_sas 
Subject: Re: Mickey Mouse Magazine variation?
CC: 
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:22:48 +0200
To: Pedersen Hans , 

What series are you talking about? (1930/1934 or 1935/1940)
and
Which number of issue have got difference?
Paolo Bontempi

> Da: Pedersen Hans 
> Data: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:22:41 -0800 (PST)
> A: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Oggetto: Mickey Mouse Magazine variation?
> 
> Someone recently pointed out to me that there is a variation
> of the 1930s Mickey Mouse Magazines that I had never noticed
> or seen described anywhere. Since then, I've observed it on
> several other copies. Does anyone know the reason for this
> difference and which issues it affected?
> 
> Example
> 
> Thanks, Hans
> 
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
> 




> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822 
From: "Lars Jensen" 
Subject: Let me plot the ways...
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:47:32 +0100
To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" 

Eta Beta wrote:

> Also, in France there's a comic series devoted to "Les Petits Hommes",
> a bunch of people whose diminutive size is permanent (freely chosen, I
> seem to understand), rather than temporary.

Thanks, E. B. I've only ever seen a few pages of this series, and for
years I've tried to figure out exactly what was the conceptual
difference between Les Petits Hommes and the Smurfs. The idea of people
who have freely chosen to be gnome-sized sounds intriguing. Does it take
place in a contemporary setting? (I couldn't tell from the few pages I
saw.)

> I'm not exactly fond of Disney super-heroes, either... I find those,
> especially the italian Paperinik (moreso in the recent, "modern"
> incarnation) but also most of Super Goof quite repetitive and
> unoriginal...

But just because a lot of Paperinik or Super Goof stories may (in your
opinion) be dull, doesn't mean the characters themselves are bad, does
it? A lot of boring Donald Duck stories have been made, too.

Lars





> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822 
From: "Lars Jensen" 
Subject: Scarpa and "Duck Tales"
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:48:07 +0100
To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" 

Francesco wrote:

> Scarpa had made a short (6 minutes) cartoon [...] Scarpa tried again
> and made this short clip [...]

Thanks, Francesco. Very interesting. I'll assume the cartoons looked
amazing. Do you realize how envious I am of you Italians, who for years
have had people like Romano Scarpa walking around in the streets?

Lars





> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822 
From: "Lars Jensen" 
Subject: Shrinking gag
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:48:23 +0100
To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" 

Mads Jensen wrote:

> The movie series "Honey, I shrunk the kids" (which I believe is made
> by Disney) reuses the gag in several movies, and now even started a
> half-hour comedy show based on the storylines.

It's Disney, yes, but the series was actually a one-hour sci-fi family
show. Pretty entertaining, too.

Lars





> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822 
From: "Lars Jensen" 
Subject: Paperinik
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:51:25 +0100
To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" 

Jonathan H. Gray wrote:

> I seem to recall ONE [Paperinik story] being printed in Disney
> Adventures way back when, but I honestly dont remember if it was any
> good...
>
> ...or for that matter if it was even Italian [...]

It was American-produced. I haven't read it, so I'll let somebody else
comment on whether it was good.

Olivier wrote:

> It's a odd convention that a mere mask or change of costume makes you
> unrecognizable / unidentifiable: Clark Kent can in no way be Superman
> [...]
> (it's all in the glasses, like Clark)

If people look the same with or without glasses, how come so many have
dropped the latter and begun wearing contact lenses? Obviously, there
*is* a difference.

Maciek wrote:

> This olwey's bother me theat now body never notice Theat SuperGoof and
> Goofy are the one guy evev whail the Only difren't betwen Goofy and
> SuperGoof only difrence is dres. SuperGoof is don't wering a mask and
> face are dissame. Disame gouse for Papiernik. It's just wird theat
> people relly don't see theat they are one.
> And In fackt for some strange resson's wen Donald swich to his alter
> ego he stop's beaing clamsy and Un-lucky.

The original Super Goof is a (very basic) parody of Superman: "What if
we let Goofy play the part of Superman?" Part of the parody is that
nobody realizes Super Goof is Goofy, even though it should be blindingly
obvious.

The original Paperinik is an empowerment fantasy. Imagine Donald
thinking: "Everybody may be laughing at me, think I'm a zero and treat
me like dirt... But if I were a superhero, I'd show them all! They'd
treat me with respect and admire me! And people who treat my Donald
identity badly (Gladstone, Scrooge and so on) would get their
come-uppance!"
As you yourself pointed out, the original Paperinik goes from being a
failure (in his Donald identity) to being a success (as Paperinik). Pure
wish fulfilment! And since the idea of having his secret identity
revealed (on a permanent basis) would spoil part of the empowerment
fantasy, nobody is ever going to realize that Donald the nobody is
"actually" a strong, competent, awe-inspiring winner. Donald can
continue to dream...

Lars



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