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<DIV>Hi A.C.</DIV>
<DIV>Not only the schools is a subject that has been passed over in
silence. I have seen <EM>some </EM>bath tubs in DD's, but until the newest
Don Rosa comic (With the blueprints...) have I ever, ever - as far as I remember
- seen a toilet. -Actually we only see the ...er, seat??? , but anyway, people
<EM>have</EM> toilets...</DIV>
<DIV>People die - but never in DD comics. (That'd be sad - but reality...)
(Yeah, OK, mr. Rosa let $'s dad die, I know...)</DIV>
<DIV>Returning to the subject: Schools and ducks. Most people go to school - and
sometimes ducks do too...</DIV>
<DIV>A story showing HD&L in school is in my opinion a funny idea. Please
notice the word "funny"... I see it as a gag story, since it seems quite hard to
imagine an adventure taking place in a school yard. Bullying (which I don't
think is called "Mobbing" in English? -Unless, of course, you <EM>was</EM>
attacked (physical) by the other students. ) could of course be chosen as a
subject - but really AC, since you have been a victim of bullying, you could
answer: Would you, when you was released from the "torture" in school, like to
go home, and be remindend of your suffering when "visiting" your friends in
duckburg? I found it prefereable to forget about victimisation and meet with
adventures... (I don't even think a story where the bullyer is defeated in some
way, would cheer me up... :o( ... )</DIV>
<DIV>About Learning From Comics:</DIV>
<DIV>YES, it certainly <EM>is</EM> OK to let kids learn from comics. ANd I am
<EM>so</EM> sorry, it isn't accepted. Though, I remember mu teacher in history
telling that when he was studying at the Uuniversity, they discussed "popular
science" (Meaning something like 'Science for gunsils/dummies/everyone, right?),
and after having studied some DD's/Uncle$'s and some magazines of Pop. Sci.,
they found out that the reseach for DD's was better than the research for the
mag.s... It is food for thought, hmm... </DIV>
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<DIV>/99E</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>mob:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>sb pøbel; flok; bande</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>vb stimle sammen; stimle sammen om, omringe ( fx the prince
was mobbed by sight-seers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>overfalde i flok</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Fra Gyldendals Engesk-dansk.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From: Anders Christian Sivebaek <<A
href="mailto:acsive@mail.mira.dk">acsive@mail.mira.dk</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To: <<A
href="mailto:dcml@stp.ling.uu.se">dcml@stp.ling.uu.se</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sent: 18. juni 2001 20:26</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Subject: Duckburg Schools</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>> Hello fellow fans!<BR>> <BR>> Having been
studying at a danish teacher's college for almost a year<BR>> now, I just
spend some time thinking about schools in Duckburg. <BR>> <BR>> This
subject has several aspects. First claim from me: There's not<BR>> often
shown scenes or stories from Duckburg school in the weekly. I<BR>> mean we
often see the ducks on adventures, doing things in their spare<BR>> time,
having different jobs and so on. I of course remember some times<BR>> when
school was the subject of eg. a Barks-story - but some of those<BR>> have
truant officers as main charecters as HDL don't want to go to<BR>> school in
those stories. <BR>> <BR>> I see something self-condradicting in the
fact that the kids are often<BR>> shown as not wanting to go to school, and
then, at the same time,<BR>> they're Junior Woodchucks, learning all kinds of
things through that.<BR>> Oh - and being that they might not think they have
any need for school<BR>> - as they can have it all at the JW's? Is that right
or wrong of them? <BR>> <BR>> In another story by Barks that I read in
danish in 1993 or so, the<BR>> danish caption in the splash panel (Want to
buy an island?) almost made<BR>> me ... throw up. It says, HD and L actually
like to go to school, it's<BR>> so funnyyyy. At the time (in all my years at
school) I was mobbed in<BR>> school so I didn't agree. But the story showed
how happy HDL were to<BR>> learn something. Later though, I saw the original
splash panel's<BR>> caption, it says kindergarten... <BR>> <BR>> Maybe
the fact that too many pupils are not happy about mobbing in<BR>> classes and
pauses at school, explains a lot about why there aren't<BR>> many stories
about it. Still I remember a quite good story where HDL<BR>> was confronted
with one who wanted to mob others, and they try to do<BR>> something about
it. In the end they make friends. I don't recall the<BR>> story code right
now, sorry. <BR>> <BR>> I remember another story, which I read in the
80'es when I was myself<BR>> what I consider a child. Back then I wasn't so
interested in artists<BR>> and all, I just enjoyed the stories like a good
boy;-) Of course that<BR>> is the porpouse of the stories for most people,
and the childlike ones<BR>> (the ones who are children, or a such at heart)
too. The story was<BR>> about HDL having to write an essay for the next day,
so they run to<BR>> Gyro to ask for an idea. He coincidentally invented a
time-mashine<BR>> (quite normal thing for him to do at that period of
stories) and the<BR>> story is about several accidents that the multi artist
Limonardo da<BR>> Vimsi causes (The name would read Lemonado da Clumsy or
such in<BR>> American, if the story is published in a Gladstone comic or
such). My<BR>> reason for mentioning that is that I of course saw what was
behind that<BR>> name: Leonardo da Vinci, and so, I suddenly knew a bit about
him. <BR>> <BR>> I don't want to write too much about the studio-stories
from the 60'es<BR>> even though some of them have school as subjects, where
eg. Scrooge is<BR>> teacher in geography, Gyro in Chemistry and Grandma in
Domestrial<BR>> Scinece (? - Home cooking?). I am not too fond of the stories
made by<BR>> the Studio back then. <BR>> <BR>> I come to think of the
school drawings Don Rosa made for Finland in<BR>> 1999. The 1-page drawing of
those shows HDL wishing they were at<BR>> school, and as they're JW's hunting
for knowledge I would understand<BR>> that. Still, it's been said here that
it's somewhat a gag drawing? How?<BR>> In the way that we think of Barks
showing the kids not wanting to go to<BR>> school because they are JW's or
what? From my point of wiev it wouldn't<BR>> be the slightest strange if
HD&L would be very bright pupils. <BR>> <BR>> Maybe a problem is that
they have been 10 years for how long? In the<BR>> stories we read today? If I
had been in 4th grade, which is what we<BR>> attend at that age, where I
live, for so many years I would be pretty<BR>> fed up with whatever it is
they learn at that point. <BR>> <BR>> In connection with this, I also
notice that the kids (HDL) are very<BR>> interested in the Internet and
computers in some new stories, and as a<BR>> kind of answer to Søren, it
doesn't botter me. I don't mind if every<BR>> writer or artist has his own
wiev of Duckburg, I'll have one for every<BR>> writer or artist. If I eg.
read a Don Rosa story, I am used to the fact<BR>> that the stories go on in
the 50'es, and I read the Barks-stories more<BR>> or less the same way. Other
stories can show HDL or Scrooge working<BR>> with internet or PC's as they're
another kind of stories from my point<BR>> of wiev. The Scrooge of the
firstmentioned kind of stories can't be<BR>> shown in a story in eg. the
90'es - not from my point of wiev. The<BR>> second-mentioned Scrooge is
forever the age he was in his best years<BR>> with Barks, and HDL are 10
years old forever - and this would be<BR>> possible because Duckburg is
either stuck in time, or (whoa!) without<BR>> time - in those stories that
is. <BR>> <BR>> So, coping with the fact (not fully accepting it) that I'm
part of a<BR>> small minority of readers - socalled donaldists, who are
very<BR>> interested in many different aspects of Duckburg - I wonder if
the<BR>> usual reader would like it - or throw up - if he/she read about HDL
in<BR>> school. Would it be okay to teach kids something through the
Weekly?<BR>> Would it be fun to see HDL in school for a day - seeing what
they<BR>> do/learn, what silly/wise teachers they have? The old codex (what
not<BR>> to show and what to show) of Gutenberghus, the publisher in
Denmark<BR>> before it was named back to Egmont, said that a
writer/artists<BR>> shouldn't make the stories so that any particular group
would be hated.<BR>> They for some reason mentioned teachers (!), but if a
writer/artist<BR>> shows teachers as they really are (some are good, some
aren't) would it<BR>> be okay today?<BR>> <BR>> Large () (I should tell
that I've been member of the staff of the local<BR>> school paper for the
last year. The school is not only teacher's<BR>> college, though it's known
for that, but also a special danish high<BR>> school form taking 2 years
(higher prepertaion-exam, hf in danish).<BR>> Many of the pupils and a few
teachers subscribe to our paper, which<BR>> comes out 5 times a year or so.
For the last 4 numbers I've written a<BR>> column, on this my favorite
interest, Ducks - Chances are that I make<BR>> take this subkect, school, as
the thing for the 2nd column next school<BR>> year (the first coming will be
music in Duck comics)) End of ()<BR>> <BR>> I challenge any
writer/artist/donaldist/fan/reader to come up with<BR>> ideas on this,
discuss or comment. <BR>> <BR>> (Stepping down from the
sodapop-box)<BR>> A. C. Sivebaek<BR>> <A
href="mailto:acsive@mail.mira.dk">acsive@mail.mira.dk</A><BR>> <BR>>
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