DCML digest, Vol 1 #1081 - 11 msgs

Vic Pratt thebeesong at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Sep 25 12:32:35 CEST 2002


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>    1. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> (SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
>    2. Richie Rich and Warbucks
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>    3. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks? (Halsten Aastebol)
>    4. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> (SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
>    5. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks? (Frank Bubacz)
>    6. RE: Who was Daddy Warbucks? (Fabio Blanco)
>    7. Re: Richie and Daddy (Cebarat at aol.com)
>    8. political comics (Soeren Schridde)
>    9. Disney Adventures vol 12, no 8 (October 2002)
> (Shad Z.)
>   10. Scrooge paid too much for the Kachoonga
> diamond mine. (lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net)
>   11. Re:#1080 (Anders
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 
> From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:14:27 EDT
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> 
> In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
> 
> 
> >  Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. 
> He's from
> > the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little
> Orphan Annie".
> > 
> 
> that strip is still running today, under the
> title"Annie"
> 
>   right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in
> the strip (1925?)
> sr
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822 
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:59:36 +0100 (BST)
> From: Vic Pratt <thebeesong at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Richie Rich and Warbucks
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> 
> Daddy Warbucks is the bald-headed, rough tough
> adventurer millionaire of Harold Gray's excellent
> Little Orphan Annie newspaper strip. Warbucks is a
> kind of rugged individualist reflecting Gray's
> right-leaning politics...but don't let that put you
> off-though prone to moralising, Gray is a unique and
> gifted cartoonist, that you chaps ought to
> investigate...the strip is currently appearing in
> that
> fine magazine Comics Revue.
> 
> As for Richie Rich, I have nothing good to say about
> him. He's some creepy weedy little spoilt rich kid,
> wearing some dumb velvet pantaloons and bow tie. By
> rights all comics featuring the little milksop
> should
> be shredded.
> 
> But neither of these rich folk have a string
> collection to rival Mc Duck. He should be at the top
> of the list.
> 
> Cheerio
> 
> VIC
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822 
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:18:29 +0200
> To: SRoweCanoe at aol.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: Halsten Aastebol
> <Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no>
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> 
> At 06:14 24.09.02 -0400, SRoweCanoe at aol.com wrote:
> >In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> >lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
> >
> >
> >>Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. 
> He's from
> >>the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little
> Orphan Annie".
> >
> >
> >that strip is still running today, under the
> title"Annie"
> >
> >   right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in
> the strip (1925?)
> >sr
> 
> It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does that
> mean that Little 
> Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical
> "Annie"?
> 
> Regards
> Halsten

> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822 
> From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:23:38 EDT
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> 
> In a message dated 9/24/2002 7:19:37 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no writes:
> 
> 
> > It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does
> that mean that Little Orphan 
> > Annie is the very same as in the musical "Annie"?
> > 
> 
> i dont know about you being slow, but yes, the
> musical "annie" was based on 
> the comic strip: Little Orphan Annie (with the
> politics removed: Gray was an 
> FDR-bahser)
> 
> steven rowe
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822 
> From: "Frank Bubacz" <frankbubacz at hotmail.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:34:47 +0200
> 
> >From: Halsten Aastebol
> 
> >It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does
> that mean that Little 
> >Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical
> "Annie"?
> 
> Yes. John Huston directed it and Albert Finney
> played Daddy Warbucks, if I'm 
> not mistaken.
> 
> BTW, J.D.Hackensacker III. is also missing in the
> list.
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822 
> From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: RE: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:23:09 -0400
> 
> Yes, Daddy Warbucks was a good american who made his
> fortune selling arms
> and was very proud (like Annie) of his honest work.
> Is something like the
> father of "Commander Barbara" (?) from Bernard Shaw.
> Anyway, like Scrooge
> McDuck, he would lost all his money for regain
> trough his skills in
> business.
> I always think, that Daddy Warbucks would be some
> influence in the Scrooge's
> characterization, but I'm not sure.
> 
> Beyond all that, I can say that "Little Orphan
> Annie" is a great comic, I
> think is fascinant.
> 
> FABIO
> from the new depression land ;)
> 
> 
> > At 23:32 23.09.02 -0700,
> lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
> > >I don't
> > >know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I
> suppose at some point
> > >she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
> > >                                        ---Larry
> Giver.
> >
> > Warbucks.... Does that name suggest that he made
> his bucks through war
> > related activities during WW1? (selling arms,
> profiting from black market
> > or something)
> >
> > Regards
> > Halsten
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
> 
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822 
> From: Cebarat at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:29:19 EDT
> Subject: Re: Richie and Daddy 
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> 
> Just for the record: Richie Rich has been around in
> one form or another since 
> 1953, and once held the (US) record for the most
> comic-book titles 
> concurrently devoted to a single character.  You can
> find out more about him 
> at
> 
> http://thft.home.att.net
> 
> Daddy Warbucks has been a leading character in the
> Little Orphan Annie (now 
> just Annie) comic strip since the 1920s.
> 
> Chris Barat
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822 
> From: "Soeren Schridde" <sschridde at web.de>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:30:56 +0200
> Subject: political comics
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I didn't read about this in the ML so far, so I
> wanted to tell you:
> 
> In the German weekly Micky Maus the editors did some
> things relating 
> to the (at that point) upcoming election of the
> German parliament. 
> They published several stories related to politics
> over the last 
> weeks and also did some elections for the major of
> Duckburg. An 
> indirect link to the actual campaigns in Germany was
> the name of a 
> small boy in one of the stories: Gerd-Edmund, mixing
> the first names 
> of the two candidates Gerhard Schroeder and Edmund
> Stoiber...
> 
> Candidates with the actual no. of votes:
> - Donald 3525
> - Micky 2118
> - Scrooge 925
> - Goofy 890
> - a Beagle Boy 377
> - Grandma Duck 361,
> but the votes sent in by snail mail still not
> included.
> 
> In their newsletter Ehapa stated they got even a
> request from a 
> famous German museum (don't remember which, but
> related to German 
> history and/or politics) for the albums to be
> archived.
> 
> What are your comments on this, i.e. following
> actual main topics in 
> the "adult world" with stories and interactive
> things?
> 
> And another thing that puzzled me lately:
> In some albums included are reader polls to be sent
> back as feedback.
> In the case of the weekly Micky Maus, not targeted
> towards 
> collectors, but mainly on kids, should an relatively
> old collector 
> like me (26) send that in?
> 
> I fear that my judgment on pages containing special
> interest stuff / 
> no comics will be different from that one of the
> average buyer of it. 
> So do you see the danger, too, to take influence
> promoting my own, 
> "not target-group" opinion in a way that moves the
> product "Micky 
> Maus" away from the opinion's group that pays the
> most!
> 
> Yours, SoerenSoeren Schridde
> ------
> Diskussionszitat zur Notwendigkeit von Datenschutz:
> >Versucht mal, einem Durchschnittsmenschen die 
> >Wichtigkeit von Datenschutz zu erklären! Da kommt 
> >immer nur: "Ich hab doch nix zu verbergen!"
> Frag mal Deine Nachbarin, ob sie damit einverstanden
> ist,
> wenn der Briefträger vor ihren Augen ihre Post
> öffnet, 
> den Inhalt mit dem Lesestift abscannt und ihr
> erklärt, 
> diese Unterlage jetzt zur Polizei zu bringen, damit
> sie 
> dort sieben Jahre gespeichert und ausgewertet werden
> kann.
> Das ist vielleicht ein bisschen weniger abstrakt als
> 
> "Datenschutz"... 
> vgl.
>
http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/enfo/7968/1.html
> 
> Martinistr. 52, 49078 Osnabrueck, Germany, Earth
> eMail: sschridde at web.de  (2nd: sschridde at gmx.de)
> Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ (0)541/44063343
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> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.9 message/rfc822 
> From: "Shad Z." <shadz at email.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:09:17 -0700
> Subject: Disney Adventures vol 12, no 8 (October
> 2002)
> 
> Matt Feazel's content page doodles ("Dizzy
> Adventures") are 
> given story code JZ681
> 
> 1) The Hair Pair, JZ686, 1 page.
> Story and art by Charly La Greca.
> Characters include Squatty da Hamster and Bernerd da
> Guinea
> Pig.
> Ignore what I said last time, The Hair Pair are
> definitely
> Disney characters/properties, the Disney copyright
> appears
> on their story again this month
> 
> 2) Jet Pack Pets: "An Absorbing Adventure!", JZ680,
> 4 pages.
> Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish. 
> Jet Pack Pets is not a Disney property, it is
> copyright 
> Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
> 
> 3) Disney's Tall Tales, JZ683, 1/3 page.
> Writing and art by Glenn McCoy.
> Characters include Mickey Mouse and Goofy.
> 
> 4) Monsters, Inc.: "Pie Power!", JZ684, 3 1/3 pages.
> Story by Michael Stewart. Pencils by Steven Butler.
> Inks by 
> Jim Amash.
> Characters include James "Sulley" Sullivan, Mike
> Wazowski 
> and Celia.
> 
> 5) Beauty and the Beast: "Sittin' Pretty!", JZ685, 1
> 2/3 
> pages.
> Story by John Green. Pencils by Steven Butler. Inks
> by Jim 
> Amash.
> Characters include Beast, Cogsworth, Lumiere, Chip,
> Fifi
> and Belle.
> 
> 6) The Last Laugh: "Amazing new Pet Supplies!",
> JZ682, 1 
> page. 
> Written by John Green. Art by Jim Paillot.
> 
> Shad Z.                      ^Q^
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.10 message/rfc822 
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:08:29 -0700
> From: lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net
> Subject: Scrooge paid too much for the Kachoonga
> diamond mine.
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> 
> I'm finally looking at some of the many details in
> Don Rosa's
> Life & Times of Scrooge, part 11, which covers the
> years 1909 to 1930.  In Scrooge's first trip after
> completion of
> his money bin, he takes his sisters up the Congo and
> Mumbo
> Jumbo rivers to buy the Kachoonga diamond mine from
> Chief Boo-boo of the Qwak Qwak tribe.  He gives the
> chief  a coin with "a miniature portrait of the
> chief of my
> village" (page 5, panel 5).  Chief Boo-boo looks it
> over, and
> reads: "ooo---chief 'quarter-dollar'!  Most
> impressive".
> Scrooge gave him an American quarter-dollar with an
> American president's portrait on it?  
>    Scrooge couldn't do that, because George
> Washington
> wasn't on the quarter-dollar until 1932.  No
> president was
> on any American coin until 1909, unlike today, when
> presidents are on all fractional-dollar coins. 
> Lincoln (Disney's
> favorite president, although others may disagree)
> was
> the first on a coin, the penny, in 1909, followed by
> Washington on the quarter in 1932, Jefferson on the
> 5-cent coin in 1938, Franklin D. Rosevelt on the
> 10-cent
> coin in 1946, and Kennedy on the half-dollar in
> 1964, and
> they're all still there.
>     So in 1909 or 1910, the only coin Scrooge could
> have featuring
> "the chief of my village" would have been the
> Lincoln penny!
> Scrooge should have given chief Boo-Boo a brand-new
> shiny
> copper penny, featuring 'chief one-cent'.   The 1909
> pennies from
> the San Francisco (not Sacramento) mint with the
> tiny letters
> V.D.B. under the portrait (sort of like Rosa's
> d.u.c.k.) are in big
> demand by those dreaded coin collectors, so if chief
> Boo-Boo
> had one of those in perfect condition, it would be
> worth almost
> as much as an Uncle Scrooge #1 comic book in top
> condition!
>    ------Larry Giver.
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.11 message/rfc822 
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:39:00 +0200
> Subject: Re:#1080
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: "Anders Christian_Siveb¾k"
> <anders_sivebaek at nns.dk>
> 
> Hi all
> 
> (Danes, keep an eye out for the issue of Familie
> Journalen which I will
> soon tell you the issue number of. Today from 2.15
> to 3.30 a journalist
> and photographer came her to interview me about our
> donaldist society. The
> journalist had seen me in the regional newpaper
> where a 3 page article
> about the society was published some weeks ago.)
> 
> Sigvald
> >
> >Have you seen this?
> >http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
> >
> >Today Norwegian Text-TV reffered to this list from
> a so-called serious
> >American economic magazine called Forbes have
> somehow managed to put
> >together this stupid list over the world's 15
> richest fictional
> >billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
> >
> >Rank  Name               Net Worth  
> >==========================================
> >1.  Santa Claus              $ ‡  
> >2.  Richie Rich              24.7 billion  
> >3.  Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks  10.0 billion  
> >4.  Scrooge McDuck            8.2 billion  
> >5.  Thurston Howell III       8.0 billion  
> >6.  Willie Wonka              8.0 billion  
> >7.  Bruce Wayne               6.3 billion  
> >8.  Lex Luthor                4.7 billion  
> >9.  J.R. Ewing                2.8 billion  
> >10.  Auric Goldfinger         1.2 billion  
> >11.  C. Montgomery Burns      1.0 billion  
> >12.  Charles Foster Kane      1.0 billion  
> >13.  Cruella De Vil           875 millon  
> >14.  Gordon Gekko             650 millon  
> >15.  Jay Gatsby               600 millon  
> >==========================================
> 
> We talked about the same thing today in Science - 
> Batmans alter ego Bruce Wayne was mentioned. 
> 
> >Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle
> $crooges fortune to ONLY
> >$8.2 billion. That's completely ridiculus.
> Comnpletely - in danish stories he usually has 25
> fantaticatillions or
> something the like..
> >
> >Fourthly - where the he.. is Flintheart Glomgold
> and Rockerduck?
> They aren't known by the amateuers who made the
> list. 
> 
> >My conlusion: the Forbes list of fiction
> billionaires is completely
> >non-scientific and totally worthless.
> It is - it's made by someone who just wanted to be
> fun, cause comics can't
> be taken serious by some people. 
> >
> >I'll say
> >#1 - Scrooge McDuck
> >#2 - Flintheart Glomgold
> >#? - John D. Rockerduck
> Hear hear
> >
> >And please forgive me for being a bit upset over
> this matter, but I hate
> >it when stupid people neglects facts about our dear
> Ducks.
> I understand you and I count the times that I've
> been annoyed of articles
> with wrong facts. I've written letters to the reader
> column about
> Timboktou not being placed in Faraway-satn as some
> insane traveller's
> columnist claimed. - I've complained to the
> Norwegian journalist who used
> egmonts press material for the blueprint-story where
> some experts made fun
> about the bin. I felt ridiculed by the letter she
> send back. 
> But our job, as fans here and in out society,
> Sigvald is to inform these
> media how things are. - The article in the newpaper
> about me was serious -
> so will the next one be. 
> Let us neglect these amateurs and enjoy the comics
> and be postiviely
> surprised when once in a while something is
> published which comes from an
> actual comic fan who knows how many money this rich
> old scotsman has!
> 
> Hilsen/Yours
> Anders Christian Sivebæk
> Donaldist
> 
> 
> 
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