DCML Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9

[Thomas Andrae]

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>    1. 	Re: Gemstone/Gladstone (Distlefink, Daphne & Goosetave,
>       Family tree) (Olaf Solstrand)
>    2. 	RV: Gemstone/Gladstone (Distlefink, Daphne & Goosetave,
>       Family tree) (Fabio Blanco)
>    3. Dijon and Merlock (xephyr at cwnet.com)
>    4. Re: Geographic inaccuracies found in DD&Co (Kriton Kyrimis)
>    5. Re: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks
>       comics in the US] (Stefan Persson)
>    6. Re: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks
>       comics in the US] (Stefan Persson)
>    7. Re: Geographic inaccuracies found in DD&Co (Stefan Persson)
>    8. Re: Geographic inaccuracies found in DD&Co (Kriton Kyrimis)
>    9. RE: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks
>       comics	inthe US] (Fabio Blanco)
>   10. Re: SV: RE: Gemstone/Gladstone (timo ronkainen)
>   11. Re: AW: RE: Gemstone/Gladstone (timo ronkainen)
>   12. Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks comics in
>       (xephyr at cwnet.com)
>   13. Re: Giant books (Ari Seppi)
>   14. Re: views on art life in duckburg? (Gerd Syllwasschy)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 04:38:16 +0200
> From: "Olaf Solstrand" <olaf at andebyonline.com>
> Subject: 	Re: Gemstone/Gladstone (Distlefink, Daphne & Goosetave,
> 	Family tree)
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
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> Sigvald:
>> And she would probably NOT have Gladstones luck
>> since he've got his luck from his mother's side.
>
> Oh?
>
> Well, I see that you and me have a different view on Gladstone's luck,
> Sigvald. Try answering this question:
>
> Where does Gladstone's luck come from?
> a) His mother
> b) His father
> c) Somewhere else
> d) All of the above
>
> Your answer is A. My answer is D. I believe that Gladstone's luck came 
> from
> several places. A lucky star, perhaps. A triple distlefink, could be.
> Genetical, supposably. But I believe that someone as extremely lucky as
> Gladstone must have his luck from _several_ places.
>
> Yes, we know (from Don Rosa, that is) that Daphne was lucky. But we've 
> never
> heard that Goosetave wasn't. With Daphne's luck, she probably got 
> married to
> someone as lucky as herself. While what we've seen of Daphne's luck so 
> far
> is limited to not being hit by cars and finding diamond rings amongst 
> eggs.
> Gladstone's luck is a full-time salary for him.
>
> Look at Goosetave in Don Rosa's Duck family tree. Does he look 
> unfortunate?
> Does he look poor? I wouldn't say so. My guess is that he was just as 
> lucky
> as his wife.
>
> What causes Gladstone's luck? Hard to say. A triple distlefink is 
> mentioned
> by Don Rosa. That could be a part of it, but I doubt that distlefink 
> alone
> would keep his luck alive for that long. I think that several things 
> must
> play a part here. His mother. His father. His horoscope. But, most of 
> all:
> His self-confidence. (yeah, that's MY theory - what Gladstone has that
> Donald hasn't, is lots of self-confidence. No matter what Gladstone 
> does, he
> knows he can make it.)
>
>
> Sigvald again:
>> Not a niece, Gladstone has no brother or sister in
>> Barks' nor in Rosa's "Donald Duck Family Tree".
>>
>
> Well, Scrooge does not have a brother either - but he sure does in the
> weeklies. (Well, only in WvH-stories, but still - no harsh Egmont 
> editor has
> ever edited this character out, so I would assume that that is the 
> official
> Egmont version now?)
>
> I'm having less problems accepting a sister of Gladstone than a 
> brother of
> Scrooge.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Olaf the Blue
> www.andebyonline.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 01:25:04 -0300
> From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> Subject: 	RV: Gemstone/Gladstone (Distlefink, Daphne & Goosetave,
> 	Family tree)
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
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> RV of the message I send to Olaf... sorry Olaf... always the same 
> problem...
> grrr...
>
>> Maybe Gladstone is a relative of Magica de Spell... What genealogy 
>> have
>> she? She have?
>>
>> ;-) hehehe
>>
>>  FABIO
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 01:12:44 -0400
> From: "xephyr at cwnet.com" <xephyr at cwnet.com>
> Subject: Dijon and Merlock
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
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> ggk at wp.pl asked:
>> In Duck Tales Movie - Tresure of the lost lamp"  there
>> were two Villains :
>> Dijon the Thief and evil Merlock the Magician. Did someone
>> know did they apeared later in comick's (except comick
>> adaptacion of that film) ?
>
> Other than the Film adaptation, I don't think either have
> appeared in COMICS, BUT....
>
> Merlock resurfaced as the main villain in the Playstation game
> "Going Quackers!" and Dijon did have two other appearances in
> the regular DUCKTALES series (three if you count by episodes)
> in "Metal Mites" and the two-parter "The Golden Goose".
> http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/dijon.html
>
> Thanks,
> Rich Bellacera
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:36:53 +0300
> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> Subject: Re: Geographic inaccuracies found in DD&Co
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <200305070936.54206.kyrimis at cti.gr>
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> SANTIAGO:
>
>>> that "Langvekkistan" is located in sentral-Asia (that's where 
>>> countries
>>> with names ending with "-stan" normally are located) the distance 
>>> would be
>>> 9995 km rather than 99950 km.
>>
>> Ahem... Could it be a quiiiiiiite curve-full way? ;-)
>
> Not if the tunnel follows the curvature of the Earth, and if there was 
> a
> decimal point after that 5, that the weather had erased, making 9995.0
> look like 99950! As for why the sign would say 9995.0 instead of 9995,
> well, engineers like to indicate the accuracy of their numbers by not
> omitting superfluous zeros. Thus, according to the engineer who put
> up that sign (for who else, but an engineer, would measure distance in
> kilometers in the US?) the distance was 9995 kilometers with an 
> accuracy
> of one decimeter!
>
> There! It almost makes sense now! :-)
>
> 	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 08:43:21 +0200
> From: Stefan Persson <spe at inducks.org>
> Subject: Re: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks
> 	comics in the US]
> To: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr."<sigvald at duckburg.dk>
> Cc: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <3EB8AB09.3010704 at inducks.org>
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> Sigvald Gr¯sfjeld jr. wrote:
>
>> Not a niece, Gladstone has no brother or sister in Barks' nor in 
>> Rosa's
>> "Donald Duck Family Tree".
>>
>>
> Not correct: Gladstone has no *known* brother or sister in any known
> family tree.
>
> Stefan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 08:46:09 +0200
> From: Stefan Persson <spe at inducks.org>
> Subject: Re: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks
> 	comics in the US]
> To: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr."<sigvald at duckburg.dk>
> Cc: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <3EB8ABB1.7010104 at inducks.org>
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>
> Sigvald Gr¯sfjeld jr. wrote:
>
>> 1) Daisy is Donald's girl!!!
>
> Daisy is both Donald's and Gladstone's girl, just like Donald is both
> Daisy's and Oona's boy in many recent Egmont stories.
>
>> 2) With the last name Gander such a girl would be a relative of 
>> Gladstone on
>> his father Goostave Gander's side - not his wife or girlfriend 
>> (unless the
>> stories with her take place in a future Duckburg). And she would 
>> probably
>> NOT have Gladstones luck since he've got his luck from his mother's 
>> side.
>>
> Donald and Daisy both have the same last name, so why wouldn't it be
> possible for two non-relatives to share the name of Gander?
>
> Stefan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 08:49:58 +0200
> From: Stefan Persson <spe at inducks.org>
> Subject: Re: Geographic inaccuracies found in DD&Co
> To: kyrimis at cti.gr
> Cc: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <3EB8AC96.3040000 at inducks.org>
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> Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
>
>> Thus, according to the engineer who put
>> up that sign (for who else, but an engineer, would measure distance in
>> kilometers in the US?) the distance was 9995 kilometers with an 
>> accuracy
>> of one decimeter!
>
> No: then it would be 9995.0000 km.  As it is written, it is with an
> accuracy of 100 m.
>
> Stefan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:09:43 +0300
> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> Subject: Re: Geographic inaccuracies found in DD&Co
> To: Disney Comics Mailing List <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Message-ID: <200305071009.43287.kyrimis at cti.gr>
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> STEFAN:
>
>> No: then it would be 9995.0000 km.  As it is written, it is with an
>> accuracy of 100 m.
>
> Oops! You're right! This would make the accuracy of the measurement 
> much
> more plausible, as measuring the length of a 9995 km curved tunnel with
> an accuracy of 0.1m would be pretty impressive.
>
> 	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
> 	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
> -----
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 04:05:21 -0300
> From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> Subject: RE: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks
> 	comics	inthe US]
> To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Message-ID: <006b01c31467$c90c0120$4d1520c8 at favio>
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>
> Mmmm... how was the remark of HD&L about that in The Return of the 3
> Caballeros?
>
> Fabio
>
> bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
>
>
>
>> Sigvald Gr¯sfjeld jr. wrote:
>>
>>> 1) Daisy is Donald's girl!!!
>>
>> Daisy is both Donald's and Gladstone's girl, just like Donald is both
>> Daisy's and Oona's boy in many recent Egmont stories.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:33:01 +0300
> From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: SV: RE: Gemstone/Gladstone
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
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>> Not a bad idea! She would then have to be a relative of Gladstone on 
>> hist
>> father Goostave Gander's side, not closer than a cousin or an aunt 
>> since
>> Gladstone has no sister.
>
> Indeed, that's true.
>
>> she must be an
>> ordinary lady when considering that aspect.
>
> Or... maybe unusual one with very bad luck?
> But anyway the joke with her name will disappear with translations...
>
> Timo
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:36:14 +0300
> From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: AW: RE: Gemstone/Gladstone
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
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>> - Goldkey Glomgold: Flintheart's father
>> - Whitman Goose: Gus' nephew: slim, intelligent and hard-working
>> - Egmont McDuck: Scrooges twin, hatched from the same egg, separated 
>> at
>> birth
>
> :-D Yep!
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 03:39:56 -0400
> From: "xephyr at cwnet.com" <xephyr at cwnet.com>
> Subject: Gemstone/Gladstone [was: The return of Disney Ducks comics in
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
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> Stefan Persson said:
>> Daisy is both Donald's and Gladstone's girl,
>
> Though it would appear that those two must share Daisy's
> attentions with a brash young duck named Duncan Ducksan
> these days as well.
>
>> just like Donald is both Daisy's and Oona's boy in many
>> recent Egmont stories.
>
> I saw a story where Oona was dating some other duck.  He
> had actual hair and a certain style of clothing as I recall.
> In the story Donald had to reconcile the two or she threatened
> to return her attentions onto him.  Who was that other Duck
> and does Oona still see him?  I suppose it could have just
> been a one-shot character, but Oona appeared to have been
> dating him before this certain tale began implying he may
> have appeared before. (sorry, I don't have access to my
> comics right now, so I hope someone else has seen this story
> too)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich Bellacera
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:42:40 +0300
> From: Ari Seppi <ari.seppi at iki.fi>
> Subject: Re: Giant books
> To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
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> Olaf:
>> Sigvald:
>>> - Jeg Mikke Mus
>>> - Jeg Langbein
>>> - Vi Minni & Mikke
>>>
>>> These are great books.
>> Uhm... I never read these books, but I read other books in the same 
>> format
>> (like "Vi, Ole, Dole og Doffen"), and I don't like them. Simply 
>> because the
>> great stories in there (mostly Barks) was torn up and twisted to make 
>> it fit
>> into the giant pages, with twenty-thirty (not literally, just 
>> estimating)
>> frames on every page. The stories were ruined.
>
> Yes, in duck books the stories were quite badly abused. But apparently
> the mouse books are better since the stories fitted the giant pages so
> there was no need to mutilate them.
>
> -- 
> Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
> http://www.iki.fi/mani/
>
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>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:46:17 +0200
> From: Gerd Syllwasschy <gsy at megatel.de>
> Subject: Re: views on art life in duckburg?
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Cc: Gerd Syllwasschy <gerd.syllwasschy at web.de>
> Message-ID: <3EB8B9C9.3E8D0B95 at megatel.de>
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> Harry wrote:
>
>> On this year's German D.O.N.A.L.D. convention, there was a lecture 
>> about
>> statues in Barks stories, including snow statues.
>> I found this lecture a mixture of interesting and boring. 8-)
>>
>> Maybe there will be a similar article in the German "Der Donaldist"?
>
> Yes, most of the congress lectures are published in "Der Donaldist"
> magazine in due time. In German language, however.
>
> For a list of available "Der Donaldist" issues see:
> http://www.donald.org/de/publikationen/lieferbar.html
>
> Gerd
>
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