DCML digest, Vol 1 #801 - 13 msgs

[Kriton Kyrimis]

HARRY:

> You could also call it revenge. Walt Disney and his people did it all the
> time: take European tales or literary pieces, and change them to their
> liking for a movie.

Hear! Hear!

> Should I take that serously? Do Scandinavians consider themselves
> non-Europeans?

Well, they do tend to speak American English better than Americans...

:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

> That might be the reason that Finland is the only Nordic country sensible
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I think you've answered your own question. (My guess is that Scandinavia,
like Greece, not being close to the core European countries, is both
European and something else, the same way that Greece is both a European
and a Balkan country.)

> For people unfamiliar with European currency: the euro is divided into 100
> cents. The word "cent" is new to, for instance, Finnish euro users.

So, how many cents (US) in a cent (EURO)?

In Greece, we actually call cents "lepta", which is the name we used to
have for the 1/100th of a drachma, back when the drachma was valuable
enough that it made sense for it to have subdivisions. We even go so far
as to write this on the national side of Greek Euro coins. I think that
this is pushing the limits of what we are allowed to do on the national
side of Euro coins, but it does give us a sense of continuity.


ARI:

> This reminded me of the question that disturbed my thinking in
> "Where Scrooge lives" discussion, which might have made my
> messages a bit confusing to read. A philosophical question:
> who or what decides what are right answers to these questions?

Given the intensity of the arguments that we've had, I think that the
answer is: "the readers". Barks took something made by Disney and turned
it into something much bigger, then other artists took that and turned
it into something even bigger (and occasionally better). If readers tend
to set apart stories by Don, set in the US, by Scarpa, set in a kind of
US that, according to an old Gladstone article, looks more like Italy,
and by other artists, set wherever they decided to place them, then this
is where Scrooge lives.


MARTIN:

> As a kid I always thought that they
> were yellow
> because US money were yellow (Until I actually saw a Dollar, then I just
> thought
> it was some kind of international colouring thing).

I remember reading a story where Scrooge had gone color blind and could
not tell red 100-dollar bills from green 1-dollar bills! Until I saw
dollar bills of various denominations, which are all green, I thought
that they came in different colors according to their denomination!


APOSTOLIS:

> In Greece, Duckburg is situated in
> Calisota, USA. And Scrooge is using dollars insteed of
> Drachmas

But the dollar is divided into what is translated as 100 "dekares"
(a "dekara" is a 0.10 drachma coin), and Scrooge's dime is also his
"dekara", causing a bit of confusion if one tries to figure out what a
"dekara" is in the context of Disney comics.

Adding to the confusion, when I was little, cents were left untranslated
as "sents", and in MIKY MAOYS #1 Mickey pays his restaurant bill in
drachmas!

> (greek currency, which after 2000 years of
> history

Though not continuous use.

> 1) The words Euro (and Europe) are greek (as you may
> already know). "Europe" is related to the greek
> mythology. I don't remember the story very well but I
> think she's a godness.

Nope, just one of the girls from whom Zeus couldn't keep his hands off.
(See, e.g., http://www.dilos.com/region/crete/europa.html)

> 2) Denmark will soon get to the Eurozone (next year).

I was under the impression that they are only likely to do so, after
holding a referendum next year.

> 3) The Euro-sign is also greek (from the greek letter epsilon) :-)

[I modified the above text, as it wasn't completely readable.]

The Euro sign is supposed to be the Greek letter epsilon, with an
additional horizontal line, denoting the stability of the currency.
This, however, is more of a non-Greek's view of how the letter epsilon
is drawn; I doubt whether there are many Greeks who write epsilon
as a semi-circle with a horizontal line in the middle. (Check out
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/epsilon.gif to compare the Euro sign
with the letter epsilon.)

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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